Der Hardware-Laberthread Vol. 2

Dieses Thema im Forum "Hardwareforum" wurde erstellt von hugehand, 6. Juli 2016.

  1. Lurtz lost

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    Eben, an DDR5 ist nichts zukunftssicherer, da die restliche Plattform nicht mitwächst. Und wer steckt in drei Jahren nochmal potentiell schnelleren DDR5 RAM nach? :ugly: Das lohnt doch kein bisschen...
     
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  2. Indiana_Bart ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIB

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    DDR5 wird den DDR4 ablösen, wie immer. Mit dieser Einstellung hätte man beim DDR3 oder 4 damals auch gar nicht zugreifen brauchen. Irgendwann wirkt sich das schon aus, wie immer. Ich wollte mit meinen PC auf jeden Fall schonmal für PCIe 5.0 und DDR5 gerüstet sein, da dieser erst in 6 Jahren wieder erneuert wird.

    Nur zu den Preisen, die man jetzt im Internet die DDR5 RAM kaufen kann, lohnt sich das absolut nicht und sollte man auch nicht machen, wenn man nicht unbedingt aufrüsten muss. Aktuell verlangen die Händler bis 600+€ für DDR5 RAM, denen würde ich auch den Vogel zeigen, das ist 3 x so teuer als der Preis, den ich für meine 6000er DDR5 RAM bekommen habe :ugly:
     
  3. Lurtz lost

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    Natürlich wird er es ablösen, für Alder Lake als Plattform ist das aber praktisch irrelevant.
     
  4. skills0402

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    Ja, aber das ist ja genau das Problem. Zu dem Preis ist es absolut unattraktiv, zumal man PCIe 5 auch mit DDR4 bekommt bei den Z690 boards. 200 Euro für DDR5 ist dzt. für normale Endkunden ein Fantasiepreis, da nehm ich lieber einen schnellen DDR4 und investiere die 400 gesparten Euro in den Rest des Systems.
     
  5. Indiana_Bart ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIB

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    ja das sage ich, wäre auch der ganze Chipmangel nicht, dann würden die Preise auch definitiv anders aussehen und dann wäre das auch für den Normalkunden deutlich attraktiver.

    naja, in Benchmarks kommen dadurch beim Alder Lake doch ein paar Frames mehr raus. Wenn zwischen DDR4 und 5 preislich kein so großer Unterschied ist, dann würde ich auch eher in DDR5 investieren als noch in DDR4

    Ist halt wie bei jeden Generationswechsel, damals zu DDR3 Zeiten waren DDR3 RAM sogar zu Release langsamer als die schnellsten DDR2 RAM soweit ich das noch im Kopf habe. Erst bei DDR4 ging das in die andere Richtung bei Release
     
  6. Soldier224

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    Naja Ram ist durchaus einfach nachzurüsten. Es gibt Leute die nutzen ein System 6-7 Jahre lang bevor sie was neues kaufen und versuchen dann auch wieder etwas zu kaufen was wieder so lange durchhält. Die Frage ist am Ende wie groß sind die Nachteile in 3 Jahren wenn man seine Grafikkarte aufrüstet mit DDR 4 oder wenn man seine Grafikkarte nachrüstet und noch den DDR5 Ram nachrüsten kann. Des Weiteren gibt es dann noch viel Spekulation mit dem neuen Pcie 5. Werden die Grafikkarten noch 2 Generationen auf Pcie 4 laufen oder wird bei der spätestens übernächsten Generation schon 5 Pflicht. Dazu kommen die Krisen und Trends welche die Preise auf einer Höhe weilen lassen, dass man sich fragen muss ob ein Hersteller bereit ist überhaupt früh komplett auf neue Standarts setzen zu wollen und eine Kundengruppe komplett ausklammern würde. Man sieht ja schon an den Spielen die rauskommen dass gar nicht mehr so viele immer wirklich starke PC´s mehr brauchen. Playstation stellt sogar immer noch Playstation 4 her und das wird auch bedeuten dass man Spiele entwickeln wird die darauf laufen müssen. Die Zeit derzeit ist halt sehr undurchsichtig.
     
  7. Freystein Microsoft Tech Support

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    Für die nächsten Jahre wird man ohnehin noch locker mit DDR4 Speicher auskommen, als das man jetzt zwingend auf DDR5 umsatteln müsste.

    Der Preis rechtfertigt in keinster Weise die marginale Geschwindigkeit und ob man jetzt ernsthaft darauf angewiesen ist, dass der FPS Counter 102 frames statt 101 anzeigt.... Naja.

    .
     
  8. nofxman

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    32GB 3200Mhz Corsair Vengeance
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    2x 1TB NVME SS
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    Hab hier grad die RTX 3050 (75W) in einem meiner Test Notebooks (Gigabyte G5 GD) aufs Minimum undervoltet.
    Bei 0,7V und 1450 Mhz verbraucht die laut Sensoren nur noch ca. 27W und hat dabei noch etwa 90% Leistung einer Desktop GTX 1060 (120W).
    Bei Spielen mit DLSS Support sogar etwas mehr als die Desktop GTX 1060.

    Der gesamte Laptop verbraucht unter Last in dem Zustand noch ca 88W.

    Irgendwie ist das ein bisschen Beeindruckend find ich.
     
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  9. Oi!Olli Vollzeitskinhead

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    Gerade für einen Bekannten den Rechner umgebaut.

    Ich weiß wieder, wieso ich Fertigrechner hasse.

    Wlan im Gehäuse verlegt und Frontpanel nicht beschriftet.

    Dafür ein OEM-Netzteil mit Diskettenanschluss. Der genau aussieht wie ein Lüfteranschluss.
     
  10. DarkSora

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    Da die Grafikkarte doch überall drauf passt, würde ich beim Ram eher auf die CPU achten, wie lang man den Sockel benutzen möchte. Und ist der Ram Abwärtskompatibel? Intel haut ja eh alle paar Jahre einen neuen Sockel raus und bei AMD ist die Hoffnung, dass der AM5 Sockel wieder viele Jahre hält. Dann einfach das neue Board noch mit DDR4 Ram aus dem alten PC bestücken und warten, bis die Preise besser werden. Für das bisschen mehr FPS sind die paar hundert Euro Aufpreis es nicht wert.
     
  11. hohesZeh

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    Huhu,

    mal eine Verständnisfrage: Warum die Preise für Grakas explodiert sind, das wurde ja zur Genüge durchgekaut. Aber warum sind Konsolen davon betroffen? Ist ja nicht so das Microsoft und Sony nicht abliefern, aber warum werden die Dinger von Scalpern ständig aufgekauft? Bei eBay oder Kleinanzeigen bleiben die überteuerten Angebote wochenlang bestehen. Ich verstehe es nicht:ciao:
     
  12. Soldier224

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    Auch ganz einfach im Grunde:

    Mangel. Auch die Konsolen brauchen Chips. Um die gibt es von allen Seiten Konkurrenz. Knappheit heißt mehr Nachfrage als Angebot. Das nutzen die Scalper aus. In dem sie die Konsolen den Käufern wegschnappen die sie haben wollen verstärken sie diese Knappheit und können sie dann teurer weiter verkaufen weil es genug "Dumme" gibt die nicht mehr oder nicht warten wollen und dann auch bereit sind 800 Euro hinzulegen.
     
  13. hohesZeh

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    Es wurden im gleichen Zeitraum mehr PS5 produziert als die 4 damals laut Sony. Und ich sehe doch auf Kleinanzeigen wie die Scalper auf ihren Konsolen sitzen bleiben:confused:
     
  14. Rawoe

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    Gibt halt nicht genug Konsolen, als das die Scalper nicht alle aufkaufen könnten.
     
  15. Jokin

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    Außerdem wird dich auch mit Konsolen mittlerweile mining in großen Stil betrieben?
     
  16. Milione Zombie-Schlächter

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    Ändert trotzdem nicht daran, dass es eine Knappheit gibt.
    Sony musste ja schon seine Verkaufsprognosen der PS5 um eine Million runtersetzen, weil die nicht genügend Material für die Produktion bekommen.
    Und du muss auch einfach bedenken, die Nachfrage zur PS5 jetzt ist weitaus größer als damals zur PS4.

    Man ist da wie bei Grafikkarten genötigt, Bots zu folgen die ankündigen wenn irgendein Händler mal eine Lieferung bzw. Drop im neudeutschen bekommt um dann schnell zuzugreifen.

    Nope, wird es nicht.
     
  17. DarkSora

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    Der Gamingmarkt ist bis 2019 immer gewachsen. Dann einmal ein Plateau erreicht und durch Corona wieder gestiegen. Die Nachfrage war 2013 als die PS4 erschien weitaus gerringer als heute, weswegen man die blanken Verkaufszahlen nicht vergleichen kann.
     
  18. MadCat N7 Moderator

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    Man darf bei der PS5-Geschichte auch eines nicht vergessen: es ist die erste PlayStation, die offiziell in China an den Start ging. Sony nennt zwar keine Zahlen, aber der Launch lief wohl recht gut. Alleine deswegen gibt es schon wesentlich weniger Geräte für den westlichen Markt.

    Da China aber seit Juli keine neuen Spiele mehr zugelassen hat, könnte sich das allmählich auch auf den Absatz der PS5 auswirken.
     
  19. Emet

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    Dauert nicht mehr lange dann heißt es "China First" oder man macht darf überhaupt keine Geschäfte mehr in China mehr machen. Ob man dann mit "China First"-Produkten allerdings dann im Rest der Welt Geschäfte man bleibt mal dahingestellt. :aua2:
     
  20. MadCat N7 Moderator

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    Wenn China das Tokugawa-Shogunat als Vorbild ansieht, sollten sie mal bei den Japanern nachfragen, wie das ausgegangen ist. :ugly:
     
  21. PredatorX

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    Besuch von den USA? :wahn:
     
  22. MadCat N7 Moderator

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    Einmal, weil sie komplett unterlegen waren. Das zweite mal, weil sie komplett durchgedreht sind. :ugly:
     
  23. Lurtz lost

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    https://www.golem.de/news/intel-sgx-cyberlink-raet-zu-alten-cpus-fuer-uhd-blu-rays-2201-162453.html

    :hammer:
     
  24. Indiana_Bart ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIB

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    UHD ist sowieso ein Thema für sich, da ich ein neues BD Laufwerk brauchte, habe ich gestern auch mal länger nach UHD geschaut. Bei jedem Laufwerk: Nicht einer hatte seine UHD Filme zum laufen gebracht, da alle Hardware Hersteller sich per Firmware Update beschnitten haben. Liest UHD bedeutet am PC: Filme schauen geht nicht :ugly:
     
  25. unreal ..hat nun HSDPA :ugly:

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    So kann man auch Werbung fürs Raubmordkopieren machen. :ugly:
     
  26. 16_volt

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    kriege heute ein Logitech Blue Yeti leider vergessen pop filter mit zu bestellen der kommt erst am Mittwoch.
    Hat ihr jemand dieses Mikro? Macht ein Pop filter wirklich so einen großen unterschied?
     
  27. sgt__luk3

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    Sollte man schon nutzen damit das nicht übersteuert. Aber da es doch Mittwoch ankommt...wo ist das Problem?
     
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  28. 16_volt

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    hab mich nur selber getreten weil ich beides zusammen bestellen hätte sollen.
     
  29. DarkSora

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    Plopp und Zisch Laute werden halt angenehmer aufgezeichnet. Im Prinzip reicht aber auch ein Stück Nylonstrumpfhose über einen Drahtring zu spannen und den dann beim Sprechen vor den Mund zu halten.
     
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  30. Parn YA-HA!

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    Geil, das ROG Maximus Z690 Hero eingebaut mit 2x16 GB Ram, Memory Lines A1, A2, und B1 geben Fehler 55 raus, in Memory Line B2 funktioniert ein einzelner Ram Riegel problemlos. Es ist also immerhin kein Ram Riegel defekt und es kann nur am Board liegen.

    In B1 und B2 parallel funktionieren die Ram Riegel auch, aber das ist nicht ideal, die müssen in A2 und B2 funktionieren, aber das gibt immer Fehler 55 aus.

    Bios Update gemacht, Memory Lines geprüft ob die sauber sind, XMP im Bios auf XMP2 gestellt, CMOS Reset, CPU noch mal neu aufgesetzt..alles bringt keine Besserung, also ist das Board wohl defekt, oder hat wer ne Idee?)
     
  31. HK-Argeon

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    Was ist denn so die normale Verfallsrate für eine Laptopbatterie? Ich habe meine Laptop im Juli gekauft und laut Win10 battery report hat sich die Maximalkapazität schon um 50% auf 21,648 mWh verringert? Ist das normal? :confused:
     
  32. Indiana_Bart ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIB

    Indiana_Bart
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    hört sich so an, als ob das Mainboard defekt ist
     
  33. Misie Gaming Blogbuster

    Misie Gaming
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    Mein RIG:
    CPU:
    Intel Xeon E3-1231 v3 unter Alpenföhn K2 mit zwei Noiseblocker Multiframe M12
    Grafikkarte:
    Sapphire Radeon RX 570 Nitro+ 4 GB unter Prolimatech MK-26 mit zwei Blue Vortex 14
    Motherboard:
    Gigabyte GA-H97-HD3
    RAM:
    2x 4 GB Crucial Ballistix Sport + 2x 4 GB GeIL EVO Corsa DDR3, 1600 MHz, CL9-9-9-24
    Laufwerke:
    Samsung 840 Evo 120 GB
    OCZ Trion 150 240 GB
    Crucial MX500 500 GB
    Soundkarte:
    AKG K702 an Xonar D1 mit UNi Driver, Equalizer APO und HeSuVi
    Gehäuse:
    Antec Eleven Hundred mit drei Noiseblocker Multiframe M12, einem Corsair ML140 und einem Scythe Slip Stream 120
    Maus und Tastatur:
    Sharkoon Draconia
    SpeedLink Parthica
    PSU: be quiet! Pure Power L8 CM 530 Watt, Lüfter durch Noiseblocker Multiframe M12 ersetzt
    Betriebssystem:
    Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit
    Monitor:
    iiyama G-Master GB3461WQSU-B1 Red Eagle
    Kommt darauf an, wie gut man damit umgeht. Hälfte hört sich aber schon arg an.
     
  34. HK-Argeon

    HK-Argeon
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    Borg
    Ich fürchte dass ich schlecht damit umgehe :wahn:. Was sind denn die groben "Do's und Don'ts"? Bleibt da als Alternative quasi nur das Austauschen der Batterie? (Wie viel kostet das ungefähr heutzutage?)
     
  35. Oi!Olli Vollzeitskinhead

    Oi!Olli
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    Ort:
    Essen
    Mein RIG:
    CPU:
    Ryzen R7 5800X
    Grafikkarte:
    AMD Radeon 6900XT
    Motherboard:
    Asus B 550 Strix F Wifi
    RAM:
    2x16 GB G.Skill Ripjaws V 3600
    Laufwerke:
    Viele SSD
    Soundkarte:
    Soundblaster Z
    Gehäuse:
    Raijintek Zofos Evo Silent
    Maus und Tastatur:
    Tastatur leuchtet
    Betriebssystem:
    Windows X
    Monitor:
    Acer Predator XB253QGP
    Welches Jahr haben wir? Hab gerade Werbung von Alternate gesehen f0r eine RTX 2060 Super. Nur 700 €.
     
    16_volt gefällt das.
  36. Parn YA-HA!

    Parn
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    Joah, ist schon mit der Post raus.
     
  37. Misie Gaming Blogbuster

    Misie Gaming
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    1.625
    Mein RIG:
    CPU:
    Intel Xeon E3-1231 v3 unter Alpenföhn K2 mit zwei Noiseblocker Multiframe M12
    Grafikkarte:
    Sapphire Radeon RX 570 Nitro+ 4 GB unter Prolimatech MK-26 mit zwei Blue Vortex 14
    Motherboard:
    Gigabyte GA-H97-HD3
    RAM:
    2x 4 GB Crucial Ballistix Sport + 2x 4 GB GeIL EVO Corsa DDR3, 1600 MHz, CL9-9-9-24
    Laufwerke:
    Samsung 840 Evo 120 GB
    OCZ Trion 150 240 GB
    Crucial MX500 500 GB
    Soundkarte:
    AKG K702 an Xonar D1 mit UNi Driver, Equalizer APO und HeSuVi
    Gehäuse:
    Antec Eleven Hundred mit drei Noiseblocker Multiframe M12, einem Corsair ML140 und einem Scythe Slip Stream 120
    Maus und Tastatur:
    Sharkoon Draconia
    SpeedLink Parthica
    PSU: be quiet! Pure Power L8 CM 530 Watt, Lüfter durch Noiseblocker Multiframe M12 ersetzt
    Betriebssystem:
    Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit
    Monitor:
    iiyama G-Master GB3461WQSU-B1 Red Eagle
    Das einzige was man beachten sollte ist halt nicht den Akku immer komplett leer laufen zu lassen und nicht unnötig auf 100% Ladung halten. Idealerweise sollte der Akku möglichst immer zwischen 20 und 80% stehen.
    Laptop generell seltener nutzen und keine hohe Lasten erzeugen ist meist eher weniger umsetzbar.
     
    HK-Argeon gefällt das.
  38. Jokin

    Jokin
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    Was auch hilfreich ist.
    Laptop bei nichtbenutzung abschalten und vom netzteil trennen.

    Läuft aber eigentlich unter dem "nicht auf 100% Ladung" halten tip.
    Ist aber eine sehr konkrete handlungsempfehlung
     
  39. Elbow of Melninec

    Elbow of Melninec
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  40. 25Minus

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    Edit: Man stelle sich vor, der Markt wäre nicht komplett "kaputt" (eigentlich ist natürlich das Gegenteil der Fall, er funktioniert prima) und diese Karte würde sich mit der GTX 1050 Ti battlen, im Preisbereich um 100 bis 120 €.

    Der Name ist nur völlig daneben. 6300 XT wäre vielleicht passend.

    Die ist langsamer als die 5500 XT, die auch immerhin 8 GB Speicher hatte. :aua:
     
    Zuletzt bearbeitet: 19. Januar 2022 um 19:51 Uhr
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